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Thursday, June 11, 2009

Norton v. Niall. Niall: Norton made fake accounts

Arguments between Mr.NiallforEngland and GOP President TJ Norton have led to an expulsion debate of Mr. Niall and Mr. Norton’s alleged other Titulian accounts. It it causing a lot of steam in the props as Norton and Niall go on. Niall stated that:

tj your wishes are partially coming into reality for me and mathieson to leave,

is it the fact you dont wanna be challenged by a 14 year old? bit embarssing is it ?

well i have something for you i will be around Titulia along time and maybe i won't be at the forefront as i once was, but remember you better perfect every thing you say or propose cause i will be picking holes. You swear at me Patronize me and i've had enough to be quite honest i come back to Titulia hearing of the progress and this is what i get. i wonder if you are really TJ or are erina Jenson? You say you stand for justice, but you seem to remind me of the BNP leader nick griffin in the fact your completely different. You disgust me. I am being stubborn now i am not leaving Titulia 

 

Norton released a response on his blog stating:

Dear Niall,
Thanks for your message.  We're going to cover a fair bit in this e-mail so I suggest you have a decent read.  I confess I am a tad over this kind of childishness and it's the only negative thing I have to say about your age or James' for that matter.  I also apologise in advance for any typos or disparities in the form of grammar or brevity - I type rather fast when I debate and would rather get it out while it's there.  After all, I leave for a 2 day vacation in a little over 2 1/2 hours.
If I were you I would be more concerned that your so-called good friend called for your own expulsion.  Although he later voted against it, the record will reflect that I also voted no.
My problem with you and James isn't personal.  In fact, is is you two that are bringing the personalities into it by engaging in the type of personal attack politics in order to gain favour in the party.
Which reminds me, it was just recently when James Mathieson accused me second-hand of giving bribes as a way for my opponent to gain support in the GOP ballot.  When he realised the tide turned against baseless accusations, he then took the charm of blaming it on Lakitu Mas.
Excuse me.. but who original brought up the claim, hmm?  That's right, it was James Mathieson - your good friend.  This wouldn't be the same James Mathieson who created the additional account "happy bee"?  I wonder whether he's deleted it since I raised it?  Perhaps we can ask Admin about that too.
Although Lakitu ended up making admission it was a "joke" saying that any action taken against me would be the only way they could of won the election (which is pathetic enough) but what would the Branch have had to say if they won and I was vindicated after the damage was done?
So much for your joint claims of representing party interests.
Speaking of which, the RNP member 'Laktimus' wouldn't be the same person by any chance would it?  Can't see a huge hue and cry over that.  Just goes to show the genuineness of those who want "justice" so-to-speak.  A joke all around.  I'm not particularly interested as the login is a member of another party and if they are the same person it would make any bar one unable to vote in the same election, poll or proposition anyway.
The Administrator has put considerable effort into creating multiple safeguards to prevent this kind of fraud from occurring.  When you first became a member of the Republican Party after you left the Nationalists you joined me in party reform on this issue.
At least Erina is a real person and I've offered to have Karl speak to her on the phone to prove it (Sorry, but I'm not into handing out personal information like real-life telephone numbers to people I don't know).  We can make it Skype too but I'm aware a large number of citizens don't have the microphones to use this technology.  Aww what was that?  You're all out of options?  Good grief son you have no idea how to attack someone if you tried do you.  Slacking off there, Niall.
But then again, considering you did sweet f* all as my VP running mate and James was left holding the bag rest assured I don't have much of an expectation that you would have put much effort into this.  But in saying that, had you put as much effort into the campaign and the party you say YOU LOVE (what a joke that is LOL!) then you could at least hold an ounce of credibility when you come out an attack someone.
Our party president in-waiting Karl Christen has even called for what any open-minded citizen would.  I have laid my cards on the table - where's this great pair of aces you claim to be holding?
So let's go through the "T. J. assassination check list #[insert number we're up to - sorry but I've lost count LOL!]"
1.  Make accusation - check
2.  Form a bandwagon - check
3.  Produce no evidence proving your claim - check
4.  Clarification from the accused - check
5.  No legal strategy to win your claim - check
6.  Created yet another process story with no other intention than to score points - check
It seems everything is in order, Niall.  Nice try bud ;-o)
I want your opinion on something though since you consider yourself to be leadership material on these issues.  Is there really a market to attack people like this in Titulia?  Sorry if some of us choose the take the high ground and travel the path of debate and agreeing to disagree .. but do you think it's really possible to score off of launching false investigations to discredit one's character?
As for your comment that I want you to leave Titulia.  Dude, all I want you to do is move past your age I really couldn't care less how old you are.  As the country knows, I broke party ranks and paid a large price to support former President Alexander Pijanowski in his campaign to become President of the Republic.  He had ideas and despite some inner cabinet wrangling and suspected ill dealings I resigned in disgust over, I still believe in initially supporting him although looking back it was disappointing the direction the Pijanowski administration went in prospect.
I digress I am being rather terse about this, but have a good think about this Niall.  When all is pushed to the side I acknowledge you think you're having a go and trying to stimulate debate on the issues but I hardly think these kind of baseless attacks generate anything more process and detract attention from the real problems facing Titulia.
If I support the current Judicial and Executive branches in anything, it's finding an appropriate structure to bring these to a minimum.  It's fait accompli that it will never totally dissipate and there will from time to time be a real case of corruption - and I stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the Republic on that.  But false accusations do nothing for real or natural justice.
Speaking of 'natural justice' this is a subject I'm going to speak about in the coming weeks and I welcome the current or incoming administration to join with me on addressing that.  If we can't achieve natural justice - there is no justice at all.
I hope to have your support when this comes up.


Regards,
T. J.

Who’s side are you on? Norton or Niall? Is Norton really Jensen? Does Norton have other accounts? Let’s hear your opinion.

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